Emperor Ares
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Post by Emperor Ares on Jun 21, 2005 19:03:54 GMT -5
* Realistic Pricing, Raising Prices of Ships & Troops. This will prevent more new army complaints. They can't buy them if they don't have the money.
* Check ups on all new coming shops. There are going to be a lot more. A check should be required so we don't have 50 shops just pulled out of thin air.
Thats all for now. Discuss XD
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Post by Gurthok on Jun 21, 2005 19:11:44 GMT -5
Realistic pricing: I agree. I was not planing to sell clone troops cuz I don't have cloning facilities, but as far as droids, they could be 1-5 thousands creds each, and groups should be however many droids x whatever that droid would cost by itself, no reductions in price. And ships: Well, ships are very expensive in canon. A fighter is like 350k to 2m, depending on what it is. X-Wings are like over 1m, and Y-wings are 1.5m. So...we need to work on this... Check-ups: Good idea, we should read the posts definitely, especially for newbies to ensure their shops are built, stocked, funded, etc properly.
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Emperor Ares
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Post by Emperor Ares on Jun 21, 2005 19:37:02 GMT -5
Yeah. That is a bit high, but they gotta be higher. I mean this is getting out of hand. Atleast 20.000 a fighter as far as i'm concerned.
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Post by Gurthok on Jun 21, 2005 19:39:45 GMT -5
Yeah, something like that, cuz if ya remember in Ep 4:
"15,000? We can almost buy our own ship with that!" - Luke to Obi-wan in response to Han
So at least 20k for a fighter is reasonable, and supported by canon evidence.
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Emperor Ares
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Post by Emperor Ares on Jun 21, 2005 19:42:42 GMT -5
Yeah and I think the cheapest capital ship should be in the hundred thousands. The ssds and such in the couple millions.
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Post by Gurthok on Jun 21, 2005 19:45:00 GMT -5
Yeah, an ISD was going for 100k a pop last year on the forum, before this sell-in-groups-with-these-new-shops thing happened.
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Emperor Ares
Bantha Fodder
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Post by Emperor Ares on Jun 21, 2005 19:49:14 GMT -5
Yeah that was ah... My fault. Except they didn't come that cheap. They're in the Millions. They'll go higher soon as the ships get a realistic price.
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Post by Dark North on Jun 21, 2005 19:50:18 GMT -5
I think that SSDs should be 500K credits minimum. ISDs should be 250K minimum
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Post by Gurthok on Jun 21, 2005 19:54:27 GMT -5
Ok North,, but I'd think SSDs should be like 2m minimum? We're talking about 11x the ship here with SSDs in comparison to ISDs.
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Post by Dark North on Jun 21, 2005 19:56:02 GMT -5
How bout one million
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Post by Gurthok on Jun 21, 2005 19:58:19 GMT -5
Blah, 1m minimum is good. Now what about YT freighters?
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Post by Dark North on Jun 21, 2005 19:59:30 GMT -5
15K minimum. Any fighters
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Emperor Ares
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Post by Emperor Ares on Jun 21, 2005 20:00:43 GMT -5
freighters should be atleast in the 40s-50 thousands. They're really worth about 4-5 million.
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Post by Dark North on Jun 21, 2005 20:06:01 GMT -5
Gurth the site loads for me in a millisecond...
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Post by Gurthok on Jun 21, 2005 20:13:48 GMT -5
Well, it locks up on my browser, which is none other than IE. When making sites, you must make sure it works for ALL browsers, not just 1 or 2.
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Emperor Ares
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Post by Emperor Ares on Jun 21, 2005 20:26:19 GMT -5
Yeah it locks mine to, and I use Netscape.
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Post by Cin Talix on Jun 21, 2005 22:26:53 GMT -5
Heh.
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Post by Gurthok on Jun 22, 2005 17:56:24 GMT -5
Anyway, to get back on topic, how much SHOULD a clone cost? They are after all a lot more work to acquire what with the growth and the training as opposed to droids being assembly-lined and download code.
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Post by Emperor Ares on Jun 22, 2005 21:12:25 GMT -5
maybe 5000 a piece. Honestly im not sure, but what we have now is deffinatly(sp?) to cheap.
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Post by Gurthok on Jun 23, 2005 10:43:31 GMT -5
Hmm...that does make sense. And having a clone cost 5k by himself will forbid the buying of a huge 1 million clone army by a newbie, and thus stop some if not all of these n00b armies that seemingly pop up out of nowhere. So we are definitely getting somewhere with pricing. Now what about superlasers? Should these even be sold by shops at all? If so, should there be limits (such as time at JS and RPing ability) as to who can buy them? And just how much should they cost minimum? I'm thinking we should only sell superlaser ships or whatever to people who have been to the forum for a while and can RP pretty good. And maybe they should cost 1.5 to 2 million creds a pop because of their sheer power(as seen in A New Hope).
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Post by Teh Lord Thesus on Jun 23, 2005 12:34:33 GMT -5
Hello, i am not really leaving Jedi Sith, i talked to Kira on AIM and told her i am taking a two week break from it. Anyway, i think a single clonetrooper should cost somewhere in the lines of 2-4,000. That would mean that in my shop, i would sell 200 clones for either 400,000 credits. Or 800,000 thousand. I do think that would be a bit drastic for 200. so i think it should be 250 credits a clonetrooper. That would mean that 200 clones in my shop would be would come up to 50,000 credits. Now i think that would stop newbs making a n00b army. What do you think?
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Post by Gurthok on Jun 23, 2005 12:47:20 GMT -5
Err...they should be in the thousands. It is because of the whole clones and droids being less than 1,000 thing that there ARE n00b armies. With the "drastic" prices of 2-4k that you originally stated as your thinking, then there cannot be n00b armies as they would be too expensive for newbs to get alot of, as opposed to the 250 per soldier you then suggested.
Which is more of an army for 800k? 200 -400 people as your first statement, or 3,200 as you suggested afterwards? We need armies to be very expensive to stop newbs from making huge armies.
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Post by Teh Lord Thesus on Jun 23, 2005 12:53:22 GMT -5
But too exspensive would mean that most origanal Rpers would not buy them. Yeah okay i did go a bit too low, but too high would mean no sales of them. Did the Republic have too pay for them in episode 2, if so shouldnt we use the price that they used?
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Post by Gurthok on Jun 23, 2005 13:03:17 GMT -5
They did pay the Kaminoans, and they paid alot, but the actual buying came before the movie, so we won't get prices there. Besides, most of the original guys don't want a huge major army, already have one built, or have more than enough money to pay for them. But if you do have a point, so maybe between 1-5k per clone(same price range as droids)?
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Post by Teh Lord Thesus on Jun 23, 2005 13:07:50 GMT -5
Yeah, i know we are not settled on the clone price range yet, but what about Magna droids or whatevr thay are called. Thet are like extremely better than normal battle droids.I have them set at 1,000 for 1 droid. Do you think that is too cheap, or just right?
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Post by Gurthok on Jun 23, 2005 13:10:55 GMT -5
Magna droids are just too friggin powerful for 1k. Maybe 4-5k a pop because we're talking about a robot that can take on Jedi single-handedly and the fight is equal, and 2 of them together can beat a Jedi.
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Post by Teh Lord Thesus on Jun 23, 2005 13:14:15 GMT -5
So the magna droids the same pice as a clone, yeah i thnk that would be right. Clones i suggest 2,500 a go, that would mean 200 clones come to the range of 500,000 credits and i don't see a newb having that much money by working or getting bountys.
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Post by Gurthok on Jun 23, 2005 13:22:11 GMT -5
Good idea. 2.5k minimum is perfect for clones. ^_^ Even though some newbs might be granted that much money, I doubt they'd waste it on 200 people. Which brings us to another topic we can cover: Superlasers. Should these even be sold by shops at all? If so, should there be limits (such as time at JS and RPing ability) as to who can buy them? And just how much should they cost minimum? I'm thinking we should only sell superlaser ships or whatever to people who have been to the forum for at least 3 months and can RP pretty well. And maybe they should cost 1.5 to 2 million creds a pop because of their sheer power(as seen in A New Hope). What's your thoughts?
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Post by Teh Lord Thesus on Jun 23, 2005 13:27:33 GMT -5
I think they should be sold to experianced Rpers who know what they do, and plus they would have no n00bishness in them. But they can cause a load of destruction, and personally, i ain't going to sell them. but somewhere inbetween, about 1.75 million, i mean not a lot of people are going to get that money, especially n00bs. Yet i did get 1,000,000 creds on my shops first day, bit newbs dont get shops like that. I only got mine thanks to Cringer being C0-owner and Scipher, thats how i get my stock. Anyways, yeah what i said before i think would be ok, what do you think?
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Emperor Ares
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Post by Emperor Ares on Jun 23, 2005 13:35:34 GMT -5
I have my magna's at 10k
I think it should be 2.5 k for a clone, and 1k for a standard battle droid.
Superlaser's should only be sold with expensive ships. That way a newb won't get a hold of them.
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